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25 October 2006

This is so fucking hot. [note: graphic photos of a scarification process. I am not to blame if they upset you.][More:]

I really want to find someone in Portland who can do something similar on me.
Hmph. I don't understand.
posted by pieisexactlythree 25 October | 18:59
Or rather, I don't understand why some people pay money for something while others risk everything and live in poverty in refugee camps or worse to avoid it.
posted by pieisexactlythree 25 October | 19:01
I understand, but the little bits of skin are really really really gross.
posted by Specklet 25 October | 19:01
Wow. I can't imagine how painful that would have been. Wow.
posted by richat 25 October | 19:10
An adult consenting to scarification has nothing to do with someone being forced to be branded or mutilated or whatever, pie.
posted by cmonkey 25 October | 19:11
What kind of design would you want?

Stupid question, don't laugh at the dumdum - does someone numb your skin for that? Holy crap. That's a lot of blood. It looked like she was smiling in the first photo, or maybe that was a grimace through a haze of lots and lots of drugs and alchohol ;P

I saw the first couple of images and then scrolled down to the bottom of the page with my eyes closed and then slowly inched my way back up, hoping to catch the final result without any more gore and bits. Dayum. It seems so invasive and open to infection - is it? I'm just wondering how much you could do all at once - it's like having 2nd or 3rd degree burns or something, where your system is susceptible to all kinds of things from having so much skin flayed off. I wonder about the long-term ramifications of having so much skin removed. Is it done in stages, usually?
posted by iconomy 25 October | 19:19
Okay, this is way hot - totally Cmonk. The little bits of skin are puke-inducing. Love the pic of her sipping her G and T or whatever while the cellophane squick is removed from her back.

I'm glad it healed up as well as it did, some don't come out like that. More white-looking.

Nice post!
posted by Lipstick Thespian 25 October | 19:21
Heh. I used the ico method to view the final result, which does look amazing.
posted by taz 25 October | 19:31
I'd rather be goatse man.
posted by pieisexactlythree 25 October | 19:36
iconomy: A compass rose, I think. It's simple enough to heal well and it's appropriate.

I've never heard of someone numbing their skin, and you definitely don't want alcohol in your system for something like that. Infection is definitely a risk, particularly with that much skin removed, but I'm not sure if it's all that much more of one than when a large tattoo is done.

I'd rather be goatse man.
posted by pieisexactlythree 25 October | 19:36


All it takes is practice, pie! Practice and the desire to live forever in infamy.
posted by cmonkey 25 October | 19:50
cmonkey -- no judgment at all. I'm honestly curious about what you find "hot". Is it the final outcome? Does the process turn you on? Seriously, would like to know.

I like the final product, but I agree that the bits of skin are gross. And I'm really curious about what drives a person to scarification. Is it a different desire from wanting a tattoo?

Just curious, is all.
posted by mudpuppie 25 October | 19:51
The final result is very pretty looking. How permanent is it though? Will it look the same in 10 years?

The little fleshy bits kind of look like human cracklin.
posted by ufez 25 October | 19:52
What does it look like long term? The red would go away, and it'd look cooler. I get it. Same impulse as tattooing. It wouldn't hurt that much.
posted by rainbaby 25 October | 19:53
My brother has a bicep brand from his frat days, which he hates and is very faded. I guess that's all I have to compare it to.
posted by mudpuppie 25 October | 19:54
mudpuppie: Both. The outcome is hot on other people, but I think I'm attracted to the process more than anything for my own body.

modblog.bmezine.com has some more great examples
posted by cmonkey 25 October | 20:10
That's really interesting, monkey. The fish is very nice.
posted by mudpuppie 25 October | 20:23
Some people use numbing agents, either local (like EMLA or Xylocaine) or general (painkillers and whatnot).

The long-term appearance, as I understand it at least, is something of a crapshoot. Some folks have really beautiful ('to my aesthetic sensibility' is implied, I guess) old scars, and other folks get keloids and all kinds of complications. Though, as I understand it (I'm saying that a lot because I'm no expert), generally, folks with paler, smoother skin often fare better, and past scars can provide a hint as to future outcomes.

Wasn't this woman's picture posted to Metafilter, a while ago, as part of a post about scarification?

Cmonkey, I feel like I've seen someone doing really nice work in Vancouver, but I can't think of his/her name. But yeah, I feel sure s/he's on BME (along with hundreds if not thousands of people's pictures and descriptions of their own scarification-related experiences).
posted by box 25 October | 21:13
Not for me, but whatever blows your hair back, my friend. My first impulse is to say "eww," at the process but I've seen other body mods that have been aesthetically beautiful, so I can't really pass judgement.
posted by jonmc 25 October | 21:23
Not looking!

Tattoos are hot, though.
posted by matildaben 25 October | 21:51
I like the choice of design - I've always loved those simple Japanese prints with just a few brushstrokes conveying a stand of bamboo.

But I think one of the reasons I like it is because the message is so perfectly suited to the medium. In this case I am not so certain about that. But then again I do not know about the medium.

You often read that folks who do these more extreme bodymods are doing it to "take ownership of their own bodies." I always wonder what that means. Why don't they feel like they own their own bodies to begin with?

I'm aware that there are many reasons, but I'm always super curious about them. But you can hardly walk up to someone with an extreme body mod and ask them why they didn't use to feel like they owned their own bodies, can you - it seems to be an extremely personal question.
posted by ikkyu2 25 October | 22:08
'Stangnet!
posted by chococat 25 October | 22:18
Not really hot or gross for me. More meh. Body mod can be appealing to me if you show it to me and tell me a story as to why it means something to you. Otherwise it's just like wearing another designer label or driving a certain type of car. Dull and nether offensive or appealing.
posted by arse_hat 25 October | 23:03
I'm with arsey.
posted by chewatadistance 25 October | 23:22
Hot or not, whatever, but that's some pretty crappy bamboo. If you're going to have something permanently engraved into your back it should be a fucking masterpiece.
posted by doctor_negative 25 October | 23:38
hrm. It didn't look as bad as I'd convinced myself it would. The skin gouges seem quite deep, though. The end result is quite nice. I have the feeling it would hurt more than any of my tattoos and I don't like pain.
posted by gaspode 25 October | 23:51
Wow...the end result is beautiful. Everything that comes before it is gross, gross, gross. How does the pain compare to getting a tattoo? Or does it feel more like getting a tattoo removed with a laser? Or something else entirely?
posted by pickles 26 October | 04:21
Meh, body modification is so jejune.

Still, it'll be funny when we reach the point when the funny-looking plainskins will be asked to justify their radical approach to physicality by the modded mainstream. Give it ten years, I reckon.
posted by jack_mo 26 October | 08:28
I was determined to get a lava burn on my 40th-birthday trip to Hawaii, as a souvenier. Alas, there were no surface flows. Instead, I gave mywself a nice scrape on my arm with a piece of cooled lava. Hurt like hell, but it was, um, interesting that, once I decided the result would be worth the pain, it didn't hurt so much. I've never had a tattoo, but I imagine the feeling is similar.
posted by mrmoonpie 26 October | 08:47
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