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07 January 2006

Any Wi-Fi experts in the house? Stupidly having wasted my weekly AskMefi question on how to cook a steak, I now need your help. [More:]

My system is fairly simple, I guess. Living in a locality that has changed little since the dark ages, I still only have dial-up internet. I also have a laptop with wireless, and as of this afternoon, the PC that I usually dial up to the internet with also has a wireless card.

Now, I've enabled Internet Connection Sharing between these two computers over Ethernet before and it's worked fine. I assumed, that if I created an ad-hoc wireless network, the same situation would apply. Well, the ad-hoc wireless network did work great, for general windows file sharing between the two computers, but the laptop ain't getting through to the internet. Indeed, looking at the ipconfig output, when the laptop is on the wireless network, it has a strange IP address (not the 192.168.0.x you might expect) and no Default Gateway defined, which would explain a lot.

Any ideas? Is what I'm trying to do possible? (Sharing a dial-up internet connection over ad-hoc wireless) this page at Microsoft would seem to suggest so, and I've followed it to the letter, but it ain't happening. My dreams of contributing to Metafilter from a banana lounge in my backyard are looking shaky.
i don't know much, but i always thought you couldn't do wireless without a stronger signal. sorry.

maybe something like remote access? (does that exist for windows?)
posted by amberglow 07 January | 02:37
i always thought you couldn't do wireless without a stronger signal.

You mean like from a wireless router / WAP? Well, the ad-hoc network is up and running - full strength, 11mbps, so the PCs are talking to each other.

maybe something like remote access?

Well, if all else fails i was thinking of running a HTTP proxy server on the dial-up box, and configuring my browser on the laptop to connect to that - unfortunately, the IP addresses of the wireless connections on the two computers change the whole time, so it would be a pain in the ass, I think.
posted by Jimbob 07 January | 02:47
Question withdrawn, your honour.

Okay, after having gone outside to have a smoke (sorry, Quitters Club), and coming back inside, it is now working. Perfectly. With no intervention on my part. Lets hope it stays that way.
posted by Jimbob 07 January | 02:52
The one thing I'd be aware of is: did one of your wireless cards connect to some other network nearby, perhaps from a neighbor?

But hey, it works. Leave it alone. I dunno about Windows, but on Linux ad hoc always seemed more complicated than infrastructure. But I never tried it, so maybe it wasn't.
posted by teece 07 January | 02:58
No wireless networks nearby - I think the problem might have something to do with the order the connections are made. If the wireless connection came on before dial-up there were problems. If I made the wireless connection after the computer had dialed up, then it assigned the appropriate IP addresses for connection sharing. Something like that. We'll see how it lasts.
posted by Jimbob 07 January | 03:11
I can't really add anything except being able to sneak on to an unsecured wi-fi network a few weeks ago kept me from going insane while my Linksys teetered on the brink of death (and it was nearly a violent one, death by hammer because it was behaving so badly).

But now I've got a back up router in case this one craps out on me again.

Sometimes I think going back to dial up would be a decent way of getting me off the computer at home. but then I wouldn't be able to stream the pron.
posted by fenriq 07 January | 12:06
On background - if it had a "strange IP address, not the 192.168.x.x":

In that case, it had something in 169.254.x.x, which is an APIPA address, which it gave itself. If no DHCP server is available to assign it an address (the ICS computer in this case) it will fall back to APIPA.
posted by Triode 07 January | 13:00
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