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01 January 2013

Jesus I hate feeling unsafe I just went across the street to the convenience store from my office and some dude followed me in and was asking my name and for my number and trying to chat me up. [More:]
I realize I'm probably overreacting but I was part of that big thread a while back about "what are you reading" and I hate that I have to assume the worst about some random dude who was probably just trying to be nice, but I mean, I walk to work and back and thank goodness my coworker drove today and he is going to give me a ride home when we leave. I have no idea if that dude is just lingering around waiting for me.

He was outside when I left my office, I saw him before I walked in the store.

I hate that I have to feel unsafe. What if no one else had been here today? I guess I'd be calling a taxi to get a ride home because that dude could have been psycho and just waiting for me to come out of the office later.

Fucking happy new year. I wish that having a gun would make me feel safer but I know it won't because I don't think I'd get to use it before it was taken from me. And that makes me feel helpless and small. I haven't been this shook up in a while. I was shaking and crying when I got back to the office, more because I am so pissed that I can't assume he was just nice. I know it's usually people you know that rape you, but still. Wtf. I feel like an awful person for having to assume the worst just so I can feel safe. That's how wars get started.
I'm so sorry, what an awful experience. Even if he was actually a nice guy and not a creepy stalker, he was insensitive and/or utterly clueless about how to approach you if he actually did just want to get to know you better in a non-threatening way.
posted by Senyar 01 January | 16:49
I say trust your gut. This is also one of the key lessons of The Gift of Fear.

If he is still there and tries to approach you when you leave, tell him: " Back off!"
posted by brujita 01 January | 17:08
Don't feel sad. Feel smart. You are looking out for yourself. Like Senyar said, even if the guy was nice it's not acceptable, not respectful, to behave in that way toward people.
posted by Miko 01 January | 17:19
thanks everyone :) i appreciate it.
i'm feeling better now but it's still good to read your comments and know i'm not an asshole.
posted by sio42 01 January | 17:28
You have great instincts. If you see him again, tell him to get lost, or go get a buddy to tell him. And if he shows up after that, call the police.

Nice people don't follow you and demand personal information. They smile, introduce themselves, say they think you are attractive and do something normal like invite you to have coffee. He's treating you like a target, and there's nothing wrong with you for understanding that.
posted by bearwife 01 January | 17:56
Bearwife has it.
posted by brujita 01 January | 22:40
I utterly hate that anyone has to feel unsafe walking into a convenience store or anywhere, doing regular and normal things.

The last time someone tried to chat me up, it was because I initiated a conversation by randomly commenting on the weather while waiting a very long time for the bus to come. After some niceties, the guy invited me out for dinner, I politely declined, he politely accepted my rejection, and then we didn't speak again until the bus came.

That's how it's supposed to go. Someone asking you out isn't supposed to make you feel afraid of them.
posted by TrishaLynn 02 January | 11:38
it wasn't so much that he talked to me that freaked me out.

it's that he followed me into the store and wandered til he found me. i guess that could be seen as incredibly romantic, but the first thing he did before anything was start asking for my number. he seemed nice enough, but i was just totally freaked out.

i think if he would said "you are really pretty and i'm new around, can we meet for coffee sometime?" that would have been totally different than "you are really pretty and i'm new around here, do you have a phone?" because that just says "let's screw" rather than "i want to get to know you".

oh the fine lines of interpersonal communication.
posted by sio42 02 January | 12:42
Anybody who starts off or goes on about how "pretty" I am always comes off like some idiot who wants to get laid to me, too, or just turns me off in general.

This one time, I was walking home through this deserted parking lot after dark, my usual way, and this guy was walking the same way a few yards away. I didn't think much of it but I was aware of it, I just didn't know how aware until he burst out and said something, like "I bet it was!" or something innocuous. He was on his phone the whole time but I didn't know it and it scared the crap out of me until I realized he was actually talking to someone. This may have been after someone followed me home in a car and honked at me, which nowhere outside some inexperienced, short term thinking, gang kid's adolescent fantasy is a good move.

I've walked through some of the sketchiest neighborhoods in the US in the dead of night without much conscious worry, but occasionally my own startle response takes me by surprise and I realize how unprepared/unarmored I am in some instance.

People really need to understand that they are not allowed to make people uncomfortable without a response. There are so many examples I could cite about how people want to excuse some awkward/socially disabled/etc. person's behavior towards me so they get to feel like the victim and never learn that maybe it's not okay to follow someone around and "take your shot" like this is a video game. And, unsurprisingly, I have ripped into people in detail and at length about how uncomfortable and creepy they have been, to many with examples, and they still think maybe I want to hang out some time if they keep asking until the end of time.

Sometimes, you want to figure out if it's brain damage or purposeful, and then, sometimes, you just want to file papers, break kneecaps, and be done with it.
posted by ethylene 02 January | 21:33
I'm sorry that that happened to you. Having my cell phone out and talking to someone helps sometimes (even if I'm not talking to anyone) because it shows you're busy and you're connected to someone who's going to know if you're being harassed. You're doing everything right though.
posted by koucha 03 January | 13:15
it's only been kinda recently, like the last few months, that a big lesson from askme has really started materializing in my interactions with others....that just because i'm a girl does not mean i am required to be "nice" to everyone.

i know i read that on askme a lot in reply to many questions asked by others.
and i just recently sort of stopped contact with a girl who was a huge drama queen when i realized i didn't HAVE to be her friend. i don't have to be mean but i don't have to be all involved if i don't want to be. i can set the boundaries. and it's working.

just like with this guy. i don't HAVE to be nice and tell him my name and not act like he is freaking me the fuck out when he is just "trying to be nice" because it would be "mean" of me to be "rude" to said stranger.

so thank you blue and green, for giving me self assurance that i have boundaries and they should be respected and for that message finally manifesting.

not sure how well i conveyed any of that. i've had two beers and i'm still at work because our servers went down earlier and now i'm playing catch up. good times!
posted by sio42 03 January | 21:28
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