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12 December 2007

I love the city I live in, but sometimes some of it's residents embarass and enrage the hell out of me. On behalf of all gentile New Yorkers, I'd like to apolgize for these moronic little thugs. And on behalf of white people everywhere, we'd appreciate it if you stopped acting like morons.[More:] I look around my neighborhood and I see a more or less harmonious and diverse community and I think most of my fellow New Yorkers like it that way. It pains me to see my city soiled with this crap. So, my sympathies to the victims and kudos to this courageous kid here.
Sounds like the work of Juggalos.
posted by pieisexactlythree 12 December | 18:51
pie=3, I dig you, but I'm not in the mood.
posted by jonmc 12 December | 18:53
I saw something on CNN yesterday about a group of teen girls beating up and teen boy on the train. And filming it. One of the girls' fathers went on the air and apologized and advocated for some sort of state-sanctioned punishment for his daughter.
posted by danf 12 December | 19:09
It's pretty cool that a Muslim kid came to their aid.

Those pictures in the first article are obnoxious, though. If you're lucky enough to live a life where you can avoid violence, why play at it? I don't think anyone who's ever had a gun to their head would think it was cool or fun.
posted by jrossi4r 12 December | 19:10
danf: both incidents seem to me to point up, above all, the stupidity of people in groups (and I'll bet you anything alcohol was involved in both incidents).
posted by jonmc 12 December | 19:13
I don't think anyone who's ever had a gun to their head would think it was cool or fun.


I've been held up at gunpoint twice. The last time I was made to lie face down on the sidewalk; the guy then gave me a nice little tap on the occipital bulge with the gun barrel. Not fun.

Your guess is correct. Those pictures just make those kids look amazingly vacant. Had they ever actually found themselves on the wrong end of a gun, I doubt they'd be playing around like that.
posted by bmarkey 12 December | 19:24
Well, I'm not so sure. Judging by the areas reffered to the suspects seem to come from southern Brooklyn which has always had a heavy Mob (both real and wannabe) presence, so more likely these kids are imitating that, along with all the usual teenage dumbassery.
posted by jonmc 12 December | 19:29
This is all unspeakably sad. There's nowhere to even start thinking about what's wrong in our culture that's now wormed its way into these kids' lives.
posted by Miko 12 December | 20:13
I love the city I live in, but sometimes some of it's residents embarass and enrage the hell out of me.

Ha, try being Jewish in other parts of the country, and you would soon realize that NY is the easiest place in the country to be a Jew.
posted by amro 12 December | 20:36
I agree with you, Jon. I saw this in AM New York this morning, but didn't have time to read a full article about it until just now. It's shameful, and shocking, and violates the feelings I have about New York being a relatively tolerant place. Then again, that Bangladeshi kid who stepped in restores my faith in our city's general character.

I think you're absolutely right that alcohol was involved -- the Q is my line, and is something of a zoo on weekend nights, with all the kids coming in from Coney Island (and Gerritsen Beach, not exactly an oasis of tolerance), drinking on the train, and being generally rambunctious and sometimes obnoxious.
posted by Lassie 12 December | 21:05
Lassie, one of the kids arrested was involved in the incident you linked, too. The weird-ass territorial shit is one vestige of Old New York that I'd just as soon not see revived.
posted by jonmc 12 December | 21:34
Yeeesh. What a bunch of... dumb, gun-lovin' drunk teenage New Yorkers.
posted by Joe Invisible 12 December | 22:33
"I was the only one left in the tomb then. It was sort of peaceful. I sort of liked it, in a way. It was so nice and peaceful. Then, all of a sudden, you'd never guess what I saw on the wall. Another 'Fuck you.' It was written with a red crayon or something, right under the glass part of the wall, under the stones.

"That's the whole trouble. You can't ever find a place that's nice and peaceful, because there isn't any. You may think there is, but once you get there, when you're not looking, somebody'll sneak up and write 'Fuck you' right under your nose. Try it sometime. I think, even, if I ever die, and they stick me in a cemetary, and I have a tombstone and all, it'll say 'Holden Caulfield' on it, and then what year I was born and what year I died, and then right under that it'll say 'Fuck you.' I'm positive, in fact."
posted by eekacat 12 December | 22:34
Lassie, one of the kids arrested was involved in the incident you linked, too.


Huh, well what do you know? I didn't even notice that when I linked to that article.

posted by Lassie 12 December | 22:59
About the hero...
He said he didn't go to the doctor because he's too busy working two waiter jobs and doesn't have the money for medical care.

Man that's fucked up. He deserves free care for his injuries.

I have gotten spoiled living over here. If you are sick or injured here, you go to the doctor and it costs 10 bucks every 3 months. That's the one aspect of moving back to the US that scares the hell out of me.
posted by chillmost 13 December | 05:11
That's the one aspect of moving back to the US that scares the hell out of me.

It should scare you; it's a hopeless situation.
posted by chuckdarwin 13 December | 07:14
ship them all off to Iraq, they'll make fine interrogators and prison guards
posted by matteo 13 December | 13:21
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