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12 December 2005

At one time, I really liked and respected most MeFites. Now I dunno.
post by: orthogonality at: 08:33 | 112 comments
that really is shitty.
posted by amberglow 12 December | 08:45
Thanks to MeFi I've encountered many fascinating people and have discovered quite a bit good in others. But I've also learned that there are more jerks, whiners, and petty nitpickers than I ever imagined.
posted by Slack-a-gogo 12 December | 08:52
One piece of shit, eh, it's depressing but you learn to expect it.

Seeing other mefites (some I respect(ed)) answering this idiot, or defending the question because it's not illegal, that's what really makes me heartsick.



posted by orthogonality 12 December | 08:53
Nice post on the blue, orthogonality. It's hard to pull off a front-page-post that's primarily just a jpg, but I think you succeeded.
posted by danostuporstar 12 December | 08:54
This is not meant to be critical but I wonder sometimes whether Metachat realllllly needs the MeFi discussions.

I just throw it out there as a thought.
posted by peacay 12 December | 08:58
I still like and respect most Mefites (in fact, I can't think of one I dislike or don't respect).
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 12 December | 09:28
Wow, that means thepinksuperhero doesn't dislike me! Yay!

I don't dislike you either. Group hug!
posted by grouse 12 December | 09:34
::group hug::
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 12 December | 09:35
Come on, now, a group hug is no fun unless everyone joins in! You, too, orthogonality!
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 12 December | 09:55
Baby steps, tps, baby steps.
posted by danostuporstar 12 December | 09:59
Can I come in? I could use a hug.
posted by Gator 12 December | 10:01
From my own personal experience (and because I was re-reading the Baroque Cycle recently) I would say it is good that we don't exist in the real world (we don't right?) or carry swords. Think of all the affronts we would have received that would end in the flow of claret, all the scars, all the half functioning limbs and "he/she was cut down too young" type funeral orations.

I am forever taking things personally, which is why I am glad that there is this barrier of internet between me and everybody else. It's so important to not let it get to you, no matter if you are right or wrong.

I'll hug, just mind the sword, it's been wacking into everything.
posted by Divine_Wino 12 December | 10:02
Come on in, gator!
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 12 December | 10:02
It's so important to not let it get to you, no matter if you are right or wrong.

Agreed, Divine_Wino. I do my best not to get personal and not to take it personally.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 12 December | 10:03
Don't even get me started on that place. I spent a good chunk of last night defending myself against an unprovoked personal attack by some sophmoric nimrod who's miscomprehension of me is downright comical.

*fumes*
posted by jonmc 12 December | 10:14
*hugs gator, the Pink One and Jonmc*
posted by TrishaLynn 12 December | 10:16
*hugs TrishaLynn*
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 12 December | 10:17
I think (hope) [...] was perhaps commenting on the fact that MetaFilter has changed recently, but it's purely subjective as to whether that's a good or a bad thing.
Do we have to be serious *all* the time? I don't think the spirit of MeFi has been lost just yet.
posted by Edible Energy 12 December | 10:22
I won't be joining the group hug but if you all start wrestling in butter then I'll be there like a shot.

Or, you know, margarine if you're health conscious.

* stands by with cream crackers *
posted by dodgygeezer 12 December | 10:23
Also, they're jackhammering on the roof. right above desk apparently. Does not mix well with a hangover.
posted by jonmc 12 December | 10:25
I Can't Believe It's Not Polyamory.
posted by Divine_Wino 12 December | 10:26
If we existed in the real world and carried swords I'd hand all your asses to you on a silver platter.

/fencer
posted by sciurus 12 December | 10:27
What about the jello wrestling? Where's wolfdaddy?

jon, all the comments by hincandenza are hilarious. I honestly don't think anyone took them seriously. You should really stop validating his opinion by responding to him. I mean, come on. He called you a poser and a hipster. If I had been drinking anything it would be spewed all over my monitor.
posted by iconomy 12 December | 10:29
I know, ico. But when someone gets me that wrong, NTM drags me into something I wasn't even involved in, it pisses me off, and he says stupid shit all the time. He's part of the problem, if you know what I mean.
posted by jonmc 12 December | 10:32
Silly fencer, bringing an epee to a gunfight.
posted by Divine_Wino 12 December | 10:34
NTM?
posted by danostuporstar 12 December | 10:44
NM.
posted by danostuporstar 12 December | 10:45
MTM="not to mention"
posted by jonmc 12 December | 10:48
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, ok.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 12 December | 10:51
NTM is the great french rap crew Nic Ta Mere* or Nic A Muc Motherfucking Posse, Joey Starr, Cool Shen and the rest of the boys, nuff respect to the hit squad, but you are now rolling with ze sheeet squad!


I once heard them playing in a Prix Unique, which is like a big French supermarket on the pa, instead of whatever soothing shopping music was supposed to play, around my way it's usually three or four of the same sixties era soul-ish songs, like "going to the chapel" or whatever.

A terribly misunderstood and wonderful people, the French.



*Fuck Your Mother.
posted by Divine_Wino 12 December | 10:52
I'm not really one for group hugs, but I'll throw around group compliments.

You all smell like cupcakes and have fetchingly shaped eyebrows!
posted by gaspode 12 December | 10:55
Did I miss the hug?
posted by SassHat 12 December | 10:57
Ooooo, thanks gospode! I tweeze constantly.

You, my dear, are as delicious as a large bag of strawberry cookies!
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 12 December | 10:57
Silly fencer, bringing an epee to a gunfight.


Yeah, but watch for his friend in the alley, he's likely to have a bazooka.
posted by omiewise 12 December | 10:57
No, we're stilllll hugging!

::hugs sasshat::
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 12 December | 10:58
Mmmmmm, hugs. Affection sustains me.
posted by Gator 12 December | 11:00
Don't even get me started on that place. I spent a good chunk of last night defending myself against an unprovoked personal attack by some sophmoric nimrod who's miscomprehension of me is downright comical.


Oh jonmc, I just read that thread. That was hilarious. Why fume?
posted by gaspode 12 December | 11:00
Yeah, but watch for his friend in the alley, he's likely to have a bazooka.

In actuality, nothing would make me haul ass faster than seeing someone pull out a sword in almost any context. I'm fairly familiar with guns and while having one pointed at me, which has happened, is very scary, it's not as scary as some dude being all "en garde" or whatever and chasing me around and around a parked car while I scream for backup.
posted by Divine_Wino 12 December | 11:02
The mental picture of that... can't ..stop.. laughing.. must.. breathe ::hyperventilates::
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 12 December | 11:04
Also, the locked hallway off the office by the elevator is toasty warm, while the open floor where we all work is freezing and drafty. Because it's of the utmost importance that Airborne Express box be kept comfortable.

And even Horton Heat at peak volume in headphones isn't drowning out the jackhammer.

My next comment may end with "...before turning the gun on himself."
posted by jonmc 12 December | 11:09
now this asshat is back at me. I'm going to cabin in Idaho to wait out Armageddon with my shotgun and MRE's.
posted by jonmc 12 December | 11:23
*hugs sasscat* Hugging, unlike wankery, can always be revived.
posted by TrishaLynn 12 December | 11:25
Talk about cold - this is what I'm wearing at work right now, in addition to corduroy jeans and a sweater:

a really long wool scarf, which is wrapped around me twice
a wool hat
uggs (sherpa-lined suede boots that you wear with no socks, VERY warm)
fingerless wool 'gloves' ( I guess you could also call them armwarmers)
a sherpa lined corduroy jacket

My desk is right near a gorgeous but poorly-insulated 20 ft high window. I am ALWAYS cold. I look ridiculous sitting here dressed like this, but at least I'm not freezing.
posted by iconomy 12 December | 11:26
In actuality, nothing would make me haul ass faster than seeing someone pull out a sword in almost any context.

I knew a guy in California who kept a two-handed broadsword in his car at all times. Yes, he was a RenFaire geek, and a goth, and a real sick fuck. Of course I had a huge crush on him. Huge swords and all, you know...
posted by TrishaLynn 12 December | 11:27
If it helps at all, jonmc, I think that character is an asshat as well.
posted by Gator 12 December | 11:28
Jonmc - I don't want to get involved with that crap, but hang in there and don't let the jackasses get to you.

And hang in there all you cold people! Our office is pretty warm, though I'm going to have to walk to the Post Office pretty soon now.
posted by selfnoise 12 December | 11:28
The building I work in, like most in this area, used to a warehouse, and it shows in many ways. Lots of drafts, and leaks and cracks. The rent for this floor is probably $35 ludicrousillion a week, yet the atmosphere is still more hobo jungle than Wired business of the future.
posted by jonmc 12 December | 11:29
Seriously jon, haters bro, sharks and the jets. Let 'em be.
Fucking herbs...


posted by Divine_Wino 12 December | 11:30
I know that they're both narcissistic nutsuckers and their opinions are valueless, but MeFi has now become almost exclusively a haven for such people. Bummer.
posted by jonmc 12 December | 11:32
Hold tight, Two finger jon, I just stole a gump, I'll be over and we can make a mulligan and drink some squeeze, at least until we get the jake leg.


Narcissistic Nutsuckers and The Opinions are Valueless, is the name of my new band, I play lead electro kazooo and synth-glockenspiel. I still need a tuvin throat singer, two drummers who are not scared to totally rip off Rush and a Bass player with a huge throbbing red ass. Influences are the Velvet Underground, Liberace and gas huffing.
posted by Divine_Wino 12 December | 11:35
a RenFaire geek, and a goth, and a real sick fuck.

What a dreamboat!

I love how there are at least 6 different conversations going on in this thread. And none of them are even remotely related.
posted by iconomy 12 December | 11:36
The Wino is cracking me up in this thread.

Jonmc, my first reaction to that post was to rip hincandenza a new one (in general and on your behalf). But then I read it again and remembered my resolution to spend less time arguing with the insane. There's nothing you can say to stop a mad dog from foaming at the mouth.

On preview: I thought the Nutsucker was a ballet.
posted by jrossi4r 12 December | 11:38
they are all related, in the fact that they are ALL ABOUT ME!! Now back to bitching about the world!

hincandenza dosent bother half as much as the doofus who repeatedly calls me a sociopath. The big problem is that MeFi is just a microcosm of the world outside.
posted by jonmc 12 December | 11:40
I like hincandenza (and think it's uncool to be discussing him behind his back).
posted by danostuporstar 12 December | 11:44
solid-one-love not so much /uncool hypocrite
posted by danostuporstar 12 December | 11:45
winamp just fired up Scarface's "My Block." Now my co-workers are treated to the spectacle of a chicken-necking whiteboy in headphones.

My block - where everything is everything fa sheezy
My block - we probably done it all homey believe me
My block - we made the impossible look easy, fa sheezy...

Ah, gangsta sentimentality...
posted by jonmc 12 December | 11:46
There can be only one!

/fencer, decent marksman
posted by porpoise 12 December | 11:47
mediareport totally nails it
posted by fake 12 December | 11:49
The screed against jonmc is seriously messed up. But on a lighter note, the poster who accused jon of being a hipster is from Seattle. Given that much, I can now look forward to seeing four guys on horseback running through my neighborhood, while being followed by a large three-headed dog...
posted by Smart Dalek 12 December | 11:49
There can be only one!

*puts down epee, proffers vodka*
posted by sciurus 12 December | 11:55
sherpa-lined suede boots..
a sherpa lined corduroy jacket

They must be ridiculously small sherpas and you must be having a pretty good time in there with the fellas.
posted by peacay 12 December | 11:57
hincandenza snapped, it happens. move on.
posted by weretable and the undead chairs 12 December | 11:58
This Seattleite would take an evening in a bar with jonmc over a room full of hipsters.
posted by matildaben 12 December | 12:02
If there is a greater sign of moving on than headsnapping to Scarface, I have yet to see it.

If I may round things out with a quote from my main man Bushwick Bill:

"Why you shot me in the eye? I woulda shot you in the body.."

posted by Divine_Wino 12 December | 12:03
(also for the third straight commute I entered the 1 train with a guy who could've been Bushwick Bill's calmer 2-eyed twin brother. Same size, too)
posted by jonmc 12 December | 12:12
Why does ortho never participate in the group hugs when he uses MetaChat to point out when he has been hurt on MetaFilter?

Come on, ortho. Be a sport and share in the group hug! You'll feel better!

*squeezes the bunny out of the site*
posted by terrapin 12 December | 12:13
Do you know Bushwick bill's other name?


Dr. Wolfgang Von Bushwickin the Barbarian Mother-Funky Stay High Dollar Billster

Needless to say, he's my guru...
posted by Divine_Wino 12 December | 12:18
Are you going to have yourself shortened? Cos I know a guy who can do it for cheap...

(oh and here's some Scarface for y'all's asses)
posted by jonmc 12 December | 12:21
us alls asses!
posted by Divine_Wino 12 December | 12:33
and their little dogs, too!
posted by jonmc 12 December | 12:34
[checks compass, desperately searching for bearings]
posted by chewatadistance 12 December | 12:40
And here's some breakdancing for the pope for y'all's asses.
little dogs? (wmv)
posted by danostuporstar 12 December | 12:41
I feel much better for all the hugging.

I'd also like to share the fact that a fellow I know was stabbed by a swordsman at an anime con. The tragedies of cosplay, I tell you.
posted by SassHat 12 December | 12:47
I feel much better for all the hugging.

Whoever that is, get your hand of my ass!
posted by jonmc 12 December | 13:05
I know I'm late and all, but hincandenza did have a pretty accurate point, one that jon is congenitally incapapable of seeing, but a point nonetheless.
posted by dame 12 December | 13:08
He had a point, but not about me, and pillorying me in a discussion that I wasn't even involved in is dirty pool.

We've been round and round on this and if you still think that I'm all about irony and detachment, then I don't know what to tell you.
posted by jonmc 12 December | 13:11
love the breakdancing vid, dano. Any videos of the pope breakdancing?
posted by terrapin 12 December | 13:13
It's not about the irony and detachment; it's about assuming the middle is always the most reasonable place to be. But no one wants to watch us fight again and I have work to do, so I'll leave it at that. I mostly spoke up because I hate it when people tell me outside a thread that I had a good point, but they don't back me up with other people.
posted by dame 12 December | 13:20
Ah breakdancing. Every single conflict addressed in this thread could be solved with a breakdance battle.
posted by jrossi4r 12 December | 13:21
it's about assuming the middle is always the most reasonable place to be.

OK. Now we're getting somewhere. That's not what I'm about either, but I can see how you might get that impression. I don't think the "middle," politically speaking is the best place to be either, but it's where I wind up a lot of the time, and half the time all I'm trying to do with my blathering is figure out how I got there. And, FWIW (and I'm being 100% sincere here), I do honestly try to figure out where others, even those I disagree strongly with got where they are, too.

no one wants to watch us fight again

I don't want to fight with you, either. hell, I like you. I thought we were friends. Our serious conversations here can often be really fascinating exchanges, and when me, you and the wino get going in a silly conversation, it's great improv comedy. FWIW.
posted by jonmc 12 December | 13:26
Sasshat: That reminds me of the time when I was at an anime con years ago and a gal saw a really cute male cosplayer and ran all the way across the hotel lobby to leap into his arms in a huge glomp. It sent his prop sword flying--and broke it--and you could hear his "Oof!" all the way over at the bar (where I was stationed with friends, natch).

Fangirls combined with cute male cosplayers are nothing but trouble.
posted by TrishaLynn 12 December | 13:40
But no one wants to watch us fight again

This is true.
posted by iconomy 12 December | 13:48
But no one wants to watch us fight again
If you were in medievel costume waving cardboard broadswords and kneedeep in Jello I'd watch.
posted by arse_hat 12 December | 13:53
which costume would I get? Plague victim?
posted by jonmc 12 December | 13:56
You'd be a drunken bard, methinks.
posted by TrishaLynn 12 December | 14:01
I'm not much on Ren Fest, anyway. That time period hogs all the festivals. Why not a Great Depression fest? We could dress in rags and eat gruel, sleep in hobo jungles and sing Woody Guthrie songs! That'd be a hoot!
posted by jonmc 12 December | 14:04
Hootenanny, more like.
posted by mr_crash_davis 12 December | 14:13
Ooooh. Vodka!

Ok, there can be only two!
posted by porpoise 12 December | 14:16
A Great Depression fest sounds like so much fun! Maybe the MeFi Woo Woo Brigade Marching Band and Color Guard will perform some musical numbers for us.
posted by iconomy 12 December | 14:18
I choo-choo-choose iconomy.
posted by danostuporstar 12 December | 14:22
Make it an "O Brother Where Art Thou" fest and I will be there with bells on.
posted by bunnyfire 12 December | 14:27
That would rule. Sign me up.
posted by selfnoise 12 December | 14:29
That's sad that members actually offered him real advice on how to steal the lease. Lame.

It always amazes me what happens on MeFi over the weekend.
posted by fenriq 12 December | 14:29
Bunnyfire,

We.. thought.. you.. was.. a.. toad..
posted by Divine_Wino 12 December | 14:30
Broadsword calling Danny Boy. Broadsword calling Danny Boy. Come in.
posted by stilicho 12 December | 14:33
I added my bit to the conflab.
Not that anyone'll notice or comment on it.

I'm feeling particularly invisible at the moment. Does anyone ever feel that however hard you try, other people just don't notice you. It's the bizzarrest thing. Sometimes I feel as though everyone's installed a firefox extension on their browser which blocks out everything I say. Anyway, that's just my current fucked up mental state. this is the wrong place and time to moan. hmmm
posted by seanyboy 12 December | 14:53
Moan on dude, that was well-said.
posted by danostuporstar 12 December | 14:56
scarabic, fff, and (surprisingly) Eideteker have been praising hincandenza. Hmph.
posted by jonmc 12 December | 15:00
Awwww, seanyboy :-(
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 12 December | 15:09
I know I'm late to commenting about dame and jonmc, but if they fight again, I want it to be a walk-off, Zoolander-style.

Either that or dance-off.

posted by gaspode 12 December | 15:36
*notices seanyboy. waves*
posted by arse_hat 12 December | 15:37
I know I'm late to commenting about dame and jonmc, but if they fight again, I want it to be a walk-off, Zoolander-style.
I can just imagine dame pulling off those metachat pants Hansel-style!

And seanyboy I entirely sympathise. I sometimes think I could post an image of me anally raping the pope with a christmas tree and everyone would just continue to talk about how it's a bit parky outside. Ah well...
posted by dodgygeezer 12 December | 15:56
seanyboy, yep - online as well as in real life.. Oh, and in traffic too. my mum has an invisable car and whenever we putter about in it, bigass mercedeses or SUV's cut us off, swerve to close, steal our spots and pedestrians walk in front of it all the time. Never buy a Peugeot Lacoste.
posted by dabitch 12 December | 16:08
Thanks guys. I'm off on a bit of an odd one tonight.
I blame my patio.
posted by seanyboy 12 December | 16:12
Patio? Doesn't it just ..um.. lay there?

There are a couple Mefites that I actively dislike (one of whom is mentioned up-thread). And, by the way, it's a really odd feeling. I usually either like someone or feel neutral about him/her. I try to let it go but then they say something stupid and the dislike flares up again. *sigh*
posted by deborah 12 December | 16:24
bigass mercedeses
                   bear repeating
posted by danostuporstar 12 December | 16:31
≡ Click to see image ≡
posted by Edible Energy 12 December | 16:49
"course it's Pete-just look at him!"

Actually my favorite quote is this:

"It's a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart..."
posted by bunnyfire 12 December | 17:06
Patio? Doesn't it just ..um.. lay there

Patty O'Furniture stays out all night!
posted by Wedge 12 December | 20:13
Seeing other mefites (some I respect(ed)) answering this idiot, or defending the question because it's not illegal, that's what really makes me heartsick.

that people get heartsick over metafilter, that's what really makes me heartsick.
posted by quonsar 12 December | 21:54
I knew a guy in California who kept a two-handed broadsword in his car at all times. Yes, he was a RenFaire geek, and a goth, and a real sick fuck. Of course I had a huge crush on him. Huge swords and all, you know...
posted by TrishaLynn 12 December

bet you're still googling him, too. :-)
posted by quonsar 12 December | 21:58
yo jonmc, looks like you got an apology. Turns out he doesn't hate you, he just hates King of Queens.
posted by Edible Energy 13 December | 13:30
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