MetaChat - What music do you most like to listen to when you are intoxicated?

I ::heart:: Camille Paglia. We need more bluntly crazy people in academic discourse, if only to clear the stodgy assholes on both sides of every fence out of the room.

posted by jonmc 27 November | 21:59

sorry, wrong thread.

Intoxicated listening:

old gospel music, funk, 70's butt-rock, old-school punk, rockabilly, doo-woop, sixties pop, irish music, salsoul...

posted by jonmc 27 November | 22:00

An interesting start.

posted by Cryptical Envelopment 27 November | 22:01

Camille Paglia might be a blues woman.

posted by Cryptical Envelopment 27 November | 22:03

Harvey Milk, Warhammer 48k, Velvet Underground, Antony and the johnsons...Magnetic Fields, Ween....Stereolab

posted by Schyler523 27 November | 22:07

Camille's a professorial version of that girlfriend you had who would give you a headjob in a moving vehicle but who also tended to get hopped up on goofballs and drive off cliffs. In other words, an all-around fun gal.

posted by jonmc 27 November | 22:08

And an intellectual.

posted by Cryptical Envelopment 27 November | 22:09

Dire Straits is my drinking music.

posted by gaspode 27 November | 22:09

Anything noisy. And art-fag electro.

posted by dame 27 November | 22:13

She is vehement and that couts these days, apparently. I like her.

posted by Cryptical Envelopment 27 November | 22:14

I liked Dire Straits when I was a kid, but after a while Knopflers mumbly-assed singing gets to me and the musical accomapniment is too damed tasteful to excite me. But he does get credit for the immortal couplet "we got two men say they're Jesus, one of 'em's gotta be wrong," (which made my born-again future minister buddy Curtis crack up).

*downs another bottle of pear cider, cranks Veruca Salt's "Victrola"*

posted by jonmc 27 November | 22:15

Mark Knopfler is the shit, Gaspode. Best. Music. Ever. I have the live at BBC and I'll put it here ASAP.

posted by Cryptical Envelopment 27 November | 22:16

oh, come on cryptical, he's good, but he's not that good.

posted by jonmc 27 November | 22:18

I'll go drink more and find more drink now. Go ladies and gentlemen! We need more music that can find a drunken mind. Beethoven?

posted by Cryptical Envelopment 27 November | 22:20

ABBA!

posted by sisterhavana 27 November | 22:24

the boss. johnny cash. wu tang. lots and lots of wu tang. jay-z.

ehy why does mecha hate black people? no one ever has any rap or hip hop links. what the donics. hipster-appropriated old school r&b need not apply, i mean popular contemporary urban music (non-appropriated, earnestly enjoyed old school is fine by me, however; i just don't want to hear another indie kid with the tight rolled jeans tell me about solomon burke ever again). how come no one here likes the k-otix or the sunz of mann or damn near anything? what's the score here. what's next. i thought we all agreed that rock and hip hop had a cataclysmic, led zepplin-scale epical, rza-tinged kung fu battle to the death around about 1997, and that rap totally won./rant.

drinking music has to appropriate to inappropriate body parts grinding. why else would i be drinking? come on now. you think jigga doesn't qualify?

posted by sam 27 November | 22:25

ehy why does mecha hate black people?

you need to look at my record collection sometime, it's roughly 60% black music.

hipster-appropriated old school r&b need not apply...non-appropriated, earnestly enjoyed old school is fine by me

thank go d for the second half of that quote. I don't like much contemporary R&B, but I don't like much contemporary rock either.

posted by jonmc 27 November | 22:28

He *IS* that good, jonmc. I bought tickets for Dire Straits and got Stevie Ray Vaughan. Then I bought Robert Plant tickets and got Stevie Ray Vaughan. Stevie stunned me and then I recently saw Mark Knopfler live. He is the best kind of guitarist. Truly awesome. He is, for me, what music is all about.

posted by Cryptical Envelopment 27 November | 22:28

Screw you guys I'm gonna smoke dope! Damn the...ahhh...oooo...Yeah!

posted by Cryptical Envelopment 27 November | 22:31

Heh. Even weak marijuana is better than Jeff Beck on a bad day.

posted by Cryptical Envelopment 27 November | 22:32

When I'm really hammered: Pet Shop Boys. When I'm falling down drunk: E.L.O. I play the Xanadu soundtrack (just their half of it) and it's like I'm 18 again.

posted by BoringPostcards 27 November | 22:33

and but so, jonmc, but here's the thing: all american music is basically black music, and yes, i'm ruling out aaron copland and i don't know, any of that bushwa where white people [spec. those who don't know what basin street is] do shit with pianos. i mean anything with a backbeat or a bassline, basically -- that's all, more or less, somehow or other, connected to the afro-carribean-mississippi blues/folk/gospel axis, right? BUT, why no rap? yes, black music, okay, sure. soul. rock steady. girl bands. but i'm definitely drawing a line chronologically and saying that post-grandmaster flash, african american popular music is sorely neglected on mecha.

maybe this isn't the case and i'm a dumbass.

posted by sam 27 November | 22:34

Or we could call you ssabm.

posted by Cryptical Envelopment 27 November | 22:35

Allman Brothers. After (some hours after) Thanksgiving dinner I lay on the couch with my almot 14 year old son and my dog and expostulated at length on the glory that was Dickie Betts in his prime to both of them, accompanied by Eat A Peach on vinyl.

posted by mygothlaundry 27 November | 22:35

sam- I try and keep some rap/r&b in my mixes. It's just hard to find stuff that appeals to everyone.

Drinking music? Apparently, this.

posted by YouCanCallMeAl 27 November | 22:36

Gregg Allman is a Saint. Gonna listen to Jessica now.

posted by Cryptical Envelopment 27 November | 22:37

BROTHER DUANE!

posted by Cryptical Envelopment 27 November | 22:38

all american music is basically black music,

Being pedantic, but no, sam, it isn't. You're leaving out bluegrass and american folk (think Woody Guthrie as the starter here.) I'd personally posit that American music - and American life, for that matter - is at its strongest when it combines white and black influences; i.e. the blues, which is a nondenominational art form.

posted by mygothlaundry 27 November | 22:39

like I said, too tasteful for me.

*cranks Twisted Sisters "The Kids Are Back"*

and but so, jonmc, but here's the thing: all american music is basically black music

oversimplification. Black folk have contributed more than any other group but it's precisely bastardization and cultural miscegenation that give American Popular Music (or as I call the whole bloody corpus: rock and roll) it's unique flavor.

post-grandmaster flash, african american popular music is sorely neglected on mecha.

for you, sam (and I love this song, and it's GReat when you're drunk, as I am right now):

Scarface - My Block

posted by jonmc 27 November | 22:40

GODDAMNIT HOW COME NONE OF YOU SAID TRIBE. or biz markie. or de la before they went bogus. or fuck, blackalicious. or black-eyed peas, even if just the song with justin timberpufftard. or boyz n da hood. or common. or j5! i promise j5 won't offend your indie sensibilities! dre! any of the fourteen people who used that name at one time or another!

ah crap.

ice cube, man. ll cool j. dancing with hot chicks. it's awesome.

posted by sam 27 November | 22:40

Being pedantic, but no, sam, it isn't.

the subordinate clause is TRUE. and yes i hesitated to say that, but i'm making a point and discarding the subtleties, okay? but if you're going to maintain that guthrie wasn't influenced by rural african american folk tradition, i'm not the one who's oversimplifying.
i'm going to go get some shit for required listening.
i think the bastardization is precisely what i'm referring to, jonmc -- what i mean is that everything in american music today is heavily influenced by an african american tradition. but that we keep pulling up short on rap. this is not some high toned putting on airs bullshit argument: i just think people should listen to more rap. i'm not trying to make any social points here, this isn't any liberal-er than thou bullshit.

posted by sam 27 November | 22:44

but i'm definitely drawing a line chronologically and saying that post-grandmaster flash, ~~african american~~ popular music is sorely neglected on mecha.

If anyone listens to it, we don't like it.

Seriously, I like rap tracks, but I hate how "produced" they've become. I listen to Jay-Z with the backing track ripped off, cause his rhymes are awesome but the samples are pretty crappy.

I'm drawing a line ethnically and saying that chicano rap is sorely neglected on mecha. I'll dig up some Immortal Technique for the next mix-swap.

posted by muddgirl 27 November | 22:45

Musical preference is like sexual preference, to me... you like what you like, and you shouldn't ever be dogged for it (unless you like something that's illegal or hurtful to others or whatnot).

nobody can help what punches their buttons- I say follow your bliss, and don't listen to music because "you're supposed to" or it's "real" or whatever. Listen to what sends you, what speaks to you, what tickles your synapses and fuck those who talk about history or heritage or whatever- music should be for pleasure. Period. Be it Abba or the Sex Pistols or Robert Johnson, if you love it, that's all that matters.

posted by BoringPostcards 27 November | 22:46

When I'm drunk, I listen to Journey and Culture Club, because then I can put on my ugly-ass 80's shoes and fall over a lot while I try to dance like Elaine.

posted by muddgirl 27 November | 22:47

Oh yeah, Culture Club is a big drunk fave around this house, too. :D

posted by BoringPostcards 27 November | 22:48

I'm offended that you're lumping all MeChatters into one group, Sam. I personally love rap and jazz and trip-hop and a bunch of genres that it seems you would qualify as 'black music'. Just because I also listen to Iron and Wine and such doesn't make me any less of a hip-hop fan, it simply makes me more well-rounded. I pride myself on my wide range of musical knowledge and having someone insinuate that I appreciate certain music less just because I'm white pisses me off.

posted by YouCanCallMeAl 27 November | 22:50

what i mean is that everything in american music today is heavily influenced by an african american tradition.

yes, but (and this is crucial) it's the mixing with traditions from everywhere else that make American music so unique and great, as opposed to "pure," African of European music. It's just that black folks (and I say this as a white guy who has argued vociferously against fetishizing black people as de factto "exotica,") are the most American people of all.

and yes, drunken Journey listening is great. "Don't stop believin'" and molson canadian mix exceptionally well.

also, postcards: when I am king, Boy George will be among the first called to the guillotine for crimes against rock and roll. I'll have Tom Robinson and David Bowie pull the rope. Gay rockers deserve better representation that that ponce.

posted by jonmc 27 November | 22:53

Boy George was never trying to rock and roll, as far as I could tell... and I still love me some Culture Club. :)

posted by BoringPostcards 27 November | 22:57

Okay, in the interests of research, I (who have had like 5 or 6 beers tonight) just went and smoked a cigarette up my fireplace (which is pouring unhealthy amounts of woodsmoke into my living room, another problem) and turned Eat A Peach back on, and it's definitely the best music to be drunkish in a smoky room to.

posted by mygothlaundry 27 November | 22:59

Doowop. Elvis. The Descendents. Kiss. Disco music. Toto (esp. Africa).

I have a fair bit of hip-hop/rap but I have to be in a certain mood to hear it.

posted by bdave 27 November | 23:00

well ,he was trying to be soul, which is part of rock and roll, and he failed. You want a real white soul singer, check out Mitch Ryder or Dusty Springfield. or Elvis around the "Kentucky Rain," "Suspicious Minds" era.

God, I'm gonna fire those up now.

*starts gyrations*

posted by jonmc 27 November | 23:06

I used to live within spitting distance of the stage where the Allmans made their debut. It's no longer there, sadly but pretty much expectedly. And, Dickey Betts reminds me of my partner in some of his pics.

Also: I have huge amount of music in my collection that wasn't made by white guys, but I'm not about to list it here to satisfy someone who places any kind of categories on "joy," which is what good music is to me.

posted by BoringPostcards 27 November | 23:08

from enter the 36 chambers:
shame on a nigga

from phrenology:
the seed version 2.0

I'm offended that you're lumping all MeChatters into one group, Sam. I personally love rap and

not whjat i'm trying to do, and i don't think that's what it sounded like i'm doing. i've said i'm NOT trying to imply anything about anyone's attitudes towards music, i'm just bemoaning a lack of representation by certain important genres.

jazz and trip-hop and a bunch of genres that it seems you would qualify as 'black music'. Just

if you want to distinguish between toronto death core vs. li death core c. 1995, we can talk, it's interesting. but the fact is that most all popular black contemporary music is absent here. do we need to assemble a list? okay. we should do that, but let's do it later.

because I also listen to Iron and Wine and such doesn't make me any less of a hip-hop fan, it simply makes me more well-rounded. I pride myself on my wide range of musical knowledge and having someone insinuate that I appreciate certain music less just because I'm white pisses me off.
posted by YouCanCallMeAl 27 November | 22:50

dude: unclench your whiteboy guilt for a minute and realize that's got about roughly zero to do with what i'm saying. i'm just complaining about a lack of some shit that i like. if people play the shit that i like, i don't bellyache. if people don't, i do. i'm not saying jack.shit. about you being a white boy/girl/whatever. i'm a white boy FROM ENGLAND. it doesn't get whiter. but i still wish people posted more rap and hip hop to mecha.

posted by sam 27 November | 23:08

sam, maybe you should stop griping and CONTRIBUTE some of what you feel is missing from MeCha. Be a positive force, not a negative one. We might learn to love "your shit" if you offered it instead of flinging it.

posted by BoringPostcards 27 November | 23:14

And, Dickey Betts reminds me of my partner in some of his pics.

"Blue Sky," Dickie's tribute to Duane Allman on Eat A Peach is one of the best expressions of male-on-male love (sexual or otherwise) that I've ever heard. and it's got a gorgeous melody and sweet guitar throughout.

posted by jonmc 27 November | 23:15

Kyuss.

posted by rebirtha 27 November | 23:18

"Blue Sky" has been a big fave around this household, jonmc... though it's been way too long since I heard it.

posted by BoringPostcards 27 November | 23:20

from the black album:

99 problems

boringpostcards -- not everything's a personal attack, right? you're going to split a vein. look above you, maybe four/five posts. download that track by the roots, off phrenology. it's good. you might like it. maybe look at what i wrote again and realize i'm not calling you a racist. maybe relax, right? mayhbe not. but the song's good, okay?

posted by sam 27 November | 23:21

Blue Sky is what I just listened to. Ahhhhhhhhhh.

posted by mygothlaundry 27 November | 23:23

and honestly, i mean it -- i'm not doing some dick move where i attack your social conscience, bp and yca -- i just always look at the yousendit links, and always get disappointed that it's so often of a type, you know? there's this huge thing going on in music, something that has been ever since 1993, when, at least as far as the mainstream was concerned hip hop stopped being about people wearing parachute pants and clocks around their necks, and started being the best damn indicator of american life is like today. i like to pay attention to it, and i think it's good. that's all. THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL CRITICISM AND STOP ACTING AS THOUGH IT WERE.

here's a good song instead of talking:
from black on both sides

posted by sam 27 November | 23:25

sam, dude, I didn't say it was a personal attack, and I already know Jay-Z, thanks. As I said: if you get disappointed by what you find here, you can either bitch about it or provide your own. Or go find cooler friends, whatever. Sorry we're not up to the minute on the genre of music that you love.

And where did you get 1993? I was already tired of Whodini before then. Move on.

posted by BoringPostcards 27 November | 23:35

1993. enter the 36 chambers. it's still unbelivable. it's 12 years later and that's still better than 6 9's worth of what's on the radio.

here's something from common:
from Be

posted by sam 27 November | 23:37

yeah but listen to that track from phrenology. it's so fucking thick; the guitar riff on that is unbelivable. haters may be interested in sucking it: the roots play all their own instruments (that's actually cody chestnut on guitar and the vox hook, though).

here's some off the chronic. i'm no west coast boy, but it's whatever:

fuck wit dre day

let me ride

posted by sam 27 November | 23:44

Seriously, I like rap tracks, but I hate how "produced" they've become. I listen to Jay-Z with the backing track ripped off, cause his rhymes are awesome but the samples are pretty crappy.

i can get sick of whatever radio song is on 103blazing hip hop &rb pretty fast because of this -- but there's plenty of shit with a really stripped down production style that's still hot as shit; i once again refer to the seminal 36 chambers for awesome, minimalist prod values. there's a lot of great shit out there that can't get airplay because of its content -- i prefer a lot of that to the current 'era of bling' material, but that's just subjectivity shit going on, there.

posted by sam 27 November | 23:48

Depends on the drunk, but...

Pogues.
My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult.
Oingo Boingo.
Beastie Boys.
Chet Baker.
Faure.

yup. really really white.

posted by small_ruminant 28 November | 00:10

Blast Eine Kleine Nachtmusik and conduct with a knitting needle.

posted by puddinghead 28 November | 00:22

Dylan or other folk music if it's a maudlin drunk I'm wanting.

Wagner or the Red Army Chorus singing the 1944 Soviet National Anthem if I'm pissed off.

posted by orthogonality 28 November | 00:30

Depends on my mood. Right now I am happy with silence because I'm a little worn out by the holiday gatherings. If I were up to it from now would go: Flunk > Bent > Spiritualized > Mazzy Star.

posted by Mr T 28 November | 01:08

Here's the deal: I like what I like. It covers a lot of genres, but generally not hip hop - mostly because I'm a 45 year old white guy, AKA not exactly the target demographic. Jurassic 5 are OK, as are The Perceptionists, etc. I dig jazz, soul, R&B, blues, etc., but hip hop doesn't generally make my nut.

If you like what I like, that's cool. If you don't like what I like, that too is cool. I'm too old to worry about such stuff, on the whole. If you don't like me because of what I like (or don't like), I cordially invite you to fuck off. boringpostcards said it all much more politely than I could at the moment.

But don't mind me, because I've had a few. Right now, my cat and I are grooving to 96 Tears. Thank you, panopticon.

posted by bmarkey 28 November | 02:07

Don't get drunk, much, lately (various reasons, I'm no teetotaller). When I'm pissed off I go loud, though, which is one reason Nine Inch Nails is my top artist. Maudlin, twee, and tasteful is my usual fare, so I can't say that going there, which I might well do too, is any great departure.

I'm thinking if I still had the discs (truck robbery a few years back) it would be Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, primarily, or Billy Joel for a little more measured depression. Dylan I used to listen to indistinguishably of mood, but Blood on the Tracks if it's a relationship deal.

Now, watching sam and jonmc play unstoppable force/immovable wall, that was worth getting drunk to.

posted by stilicho 28 November | 02:08

What music do you most like to listen to when you are intoxicated?

When I'm plastered enough, there's always that one song on the radio which goes, "SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH........", along with the classical station which plays nothing but applause.

posted by Smart Dalek 28 November | 03:40

When I'm intoxicated, I like the same stuff I usually listen to--jazz, hip-hop, dub reggae, Afrobeat, soul, turntable stuff, electronic music, etc.

And Sam, would it make you happy if, when I came home from work this evening, I got drunk and played a bunch of rap on Radio Mecha? Because I'd be willing to do that--for the good of the community.

posted by box 28 November | 09:10

Word up to 36 Chambers! HOLLA!!!

You become so panicked as my style increases
What's that in your pants? Aw, human feces!
Throw your shitty drawers in the hamper -
Next time come strapped with a fuckin' pamper.

I *heart* hip-hop.

posted by rocketman 28 November | 17:07

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