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11 November 2005

A short list of things I hate →[More:]
1. Not having a coherent requirements document or plan, which means that QA gets to make design decisions.

2. People who get to the end of an escalator and just stop.
post by: Capn at: 10:48 | 84 comments
1. When somebody calls you and has nothing to say.

2. People that talk to me when I'm at the urinal.

3. Soggy bacon.

4. People that make left hand turns without using the turn lane (when one is present).

5. Those thin trucks with nothing but a giant billboard on the back that drive around town buring up gas and adding to pollution and traffic.

6. Journey.
posted by Slack-a-gogo 11 November | 11:02
I will bring you around on Journey, Slack. There are bands far more deserving of hatred than a better than average bar band.
posted by jonmc 11 November | 11:04
1. People who come to a full stop before turning right when there is absolutely no reason to do so.
2. Being poor.
posted by mygothlaundry 11 November | 11:10
1. Foreigner. The band, not the adjective.
2. Musicals.
3. Cranberries. The fruit, not the band.
posted by chewatadistance 11 November | 11:10
1. Slow walkers crowding the sidewalk.
2. People who whistle at cabs (the drivers can't hear you).
3. Overdraft fees.
4. Jerry Bruckheimer.
posted by goatdog 11 November | 11:11
1. People who use colloquialisms from cultures they don't belong to (Non-brits who say "bloddy hell!")
2. Mushrooms
3. The Cure & The Smiths
4. Prissy know-it-alls
5. iceberg lettuce
posted by jonmc 11 November | 11:14
1. People who get on everyone gets off.
2. Standing on the wrong side of the escalators.
3. People who criticise. All. The Time.
4. Those who find joy in the failure of others.
5. Manky, over-done vegetables.
6. Chelsea tractors.
posted by flopsy 11 November | 11:15
How can you not like iceberg lettuce? It's so refreshing and crunchy and tasteless - the next best thing to eating ice without messing up your teeth.
posted by mygothlaundry 11 November | 11:16
1. People who use communal laundry rooms and fail to remove their laundry from the washer and/or dryer in a timely fashion.

2. Women's public restrooms. What the hell is the matter with you people? Men who think women are dainty and obsessed with cleanliness out to sneak a peak at your average women's public toilet.

3. People who flick their lit cigarette butts out of car windows.

4. When you bite into a piece of bread only to notice too late that the other side has mold on it.

5. People who insist on tickling me after I've informed them that I hate it. Cannot stand it. Despise it.

6. People that insist on standing right on top of you on subways and/or elevators when there's plenty of room
posted by LeeJay 11 November | 11:17
I agree with mgl. Iceberg is also cheap!!
posted by chewatadistance 11 November | 11:18
* People who get on before everyone else gets off
posted by flopsy 11 November | 11:18
I hate it for the same reasons you like it, mgl. That and it's ubiquity.

2. Women's public restrooms. What the hell is the matter with you people? Men who think women are dainty and obsessed with cleanliness out to sneak a peak at your average women's public toilet.

I worked as a janitor in my teenage years. This was the hardest lesson to learn.
posted by jonmc 11 November | 11:18
I left out two biggies:

4. Lazy people. Can NOT stand them.
5. Crappy design that isn't thought out.

And I also have to agree heartily with the cig butt tossers. Litterbugs.
posted by chewatadistance 11 November | 11:20
The Cure?! THE CURE?! *shakes head* That's just sad...

1. Celery.
2. Doing laundry.
3. Crappy beer.
4. Birds (with the exception of penguins).
5. New country music.
posted by YouCanCallMeAl 11 November | 11:20
*backs lazily away from yoga, trying hard not to flick any butts in her sight*

Sorry, youcancallmeall. I hate the poofy haired whiny pretentious artfarts with the passion of a thousand suns.
posted by jonmc 11 November | 11:23
Escalators. Has anyone else noticed that people who don't walk on escalators invariably walk off at the end? And the people who do walk, don't at the end?
posted by flopsy 11 November | 11:24
*sigh*

Some battles are just unwinnable.

Other things I hate:
1. Screamy music that is screamy just for the sake of being so.
2. Hummers. There seem to be a disproportionate number of them here.
3. Freezer burn on my superhero popsicles.
posted by YouCanCallMeAl 11 November | 11:25
1. People who use communal laundry rooms and fail to remove their laundry from the washer and/or dryer in a timely fashion.

Vultures who swoop in and empty someone else's machine the *second* it's done, ignoring numerous management-posted signs advising against it. JUST BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THE SAME APARTMENT BUILDING, THAT DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO FONDLE MY UNMENTIONABLES!
posted by Capn 11 November | 11:25
5. New country music.

Amen! New country music is not new country music, it is treacly pop. Not that there is anything wrong with treacly pop but it ain't country from where I'm sitting.

Wow. I think I finally understand all of those people who bash Coldplay on Metafilter.

I've become what I hate! *runs away*
posted by LeeJay 11 November | 11:26
Vultures who swoop in and empty someone else's machine the *second* it's done, ignoring numerous management-posted signs advising against it. JUST BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THE SAME APARTMENT BUILDING, THAT DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO FONDLE MY UNMENTIONABLES!

That's exactly why I hate it when people just leave it sitting there forever. I have a thing about touching a stranger's wet clothes. So I just leave it there and wait. And wait. And wait.
posted by LeeJay 11 November | 11:27
Journey and Foreigner...yep yep. I also hate Rush.
I hate beer.
I hate it when people sniff continuously without ever even trying to blow their nose.
I hate silk and satin.
I hate polar bears. Even the cute ones. I hate them because they want to kill me.
I hate blimps.
posted by iconomy 11 November | 11:27
Amen! New country music is not new country music, it is treacly pop

90% of it yes. But there's the occasional gem. Deana Carter's "Did I Shave My Legs For This," and the Dixie Chicks "Goodbye Earl," are feminist anthems with great melodies and "Save A Horse Ride A Cowboy," by Big & Rich is a really fun bar song.
posted by jonmc 11 November | 11:28
Music about music. Sing about singing. Metamusic. WHY?
posted by flopsy 11 November | 11:30
Yes, but I don't count those as New Country Music. I just call them country songs. I can't speak for youcancallmeal of course but I'm thinking of the crossover crap that is overproduced manipulative calculated pablum.
posted by LeeJay 11 November | 11:30
You hate The Cure, but you like Deana Carter? Oh, man.

I hate new country music because it's all trite sentimental republican crap that my mother cries to in the car and then forces me to listen to because "oh, it's so true and it makes me think of you."

Argh. If I want a fucking feminist anthem, I'll break out the Ani diFranco.

/end rant
posted by YouCanCallMeAl 11 November | 11:31
I'm with Capn on the laundry question. If you really want me to get my clothes out of the washer, come get me. I'm across the street in the bar.
posted by mygothlaundry 11 November | 11:32
Oooo mgl, if you weren't so damned loveable...

*shakes fist*
posted by LeeJay 11 November | 11:33
Yes, but I don't count those as New Country Music. I just call them country songs.

Well, that's like me saying that Chic didn't count as disco, because it was too good. The three songs I mentioned are definintely mainstream country (as in not alt.country), they just happen to be really good songs.

Argh. If I want a fucking feminist anthem, I'll break out the Ani diFranco.

Ani is one of those people who's politics and commitment to independence I admire, but who's music puts me to sleep. And yeah, mainstream music like the Chicks and Deana Carter can be feminist anthems. If you want to reach the mases you gotta talk their language. And sentimentality is a part of life. He who is immune to sentimentality may as well be dead.

I'll also assume that you've been reading this board long enough to be familiar with the stuff I truly love, like the Dictators, Ramones, 60's Garage Rock, Rockabilly, Chicgo Blues, Jazz Fusion , Deep Soul, 70's butt rock, old-school punk, 70's funk etc. The art school/woe is me stylings of the Cure & Smiths are the antithesis of that stuff, so it shouldn't surprise you that I loathe 'em.
posted by jonmc 11 November | 11:37
Wow. I think I finally understand all of those people who bash Coldplay on Metafilter.

* wakes from slumber *

Did someone say my name?
posted by dodgygeezer 11 November | 11:42
Well, that's like me saying that Chic didn't count as disco, because it was too good. The three songs I mentioned are definintely mainstream country (as in not alt.country), they just happen to be really good songs.

True. I'm just no good at music snobbery, it seems. ;)
posted by LeeJay 11 November | 11:45
1. People who overtake you on the highway, pull in in front of you and THEN SLOW DOWN GODDAMMIT!
2. People who cram their cars/suvs into the space between that you have left between you and the vehicle in front in order not to tail-gate.
3. Crappy design.
4. Microsoft (see 2).
5. Most tv (but mrs. carter likes it).
6. Fragile CD jewel cases, their impossible shrink wrap, and those godawful stickers with bar codes that seal the top edge.
7. Any kind of blister pack that requires me to hack away at it with scissors and large knives in order to retrieve the small object inside, by which time I have also destroyed the documentation.
8. Most of CNN, these days.
9. Online registration for news sites.
10. Moronic lazy stupid self-entitled wait-staff in restaurants.
11. Moronic know-nothing 'assistants' in large stores who lie to you about something not being in stock when they are just too lazy to show you where it is.
12. Parents who let their kids poop in public swimming baths.
13. Cell phone companies and their contracts.

Grrr. *stomps off*
posted by carter 11 November | 11:46
LeeJay, FWIW, I've never considered myself a music snob, just a music geek.
posted by jonmc 11 November | 11:46
jonmc, I didn't mean to imply that you were. I was just poking fun at myself.
posted by LeeJay 11 November | 11:51
1. Those stupidly small cellphones I see everywhere, so small that the person has to take it away from their ear and hold it in front of their mouth to talk. JUST GET A PHONE THAT FITS YOUR FACE ALREADY.
2. "I'd hit it."
3. Redundant phrases with acronyms -- ATM machine, RO's office (registrar's office's office), etc.
4. My roommate who sleeps with earplugs in. She has two alarms, both insanely loud. The first blares the radio for a half an hour, until the second one (beep! beep! beep!) starts and she switches them both off. I fail to see the point of the first alarm, besides household annoyance.
posted by heatherann 11 November | 11:54
1. Like others, the general lack of understanding about how to efficiently be around other people: walk to the right, let people pass, don't stop in the middle of the sidewalk/top of stairs, let people off first, etc.

2. Specifically, people who don't move when you are running to make the train they just got off. Do you understand what's going on here? Can you please move over so I don't have to wait another ten minutes you selfish unobservant fucks?

3. My roommates.
posted by dame 11 November | 12:16
Lists.
posted by Wolfdog 11 November | 12:19
Oh, and on the laundry thing, I gotta say, You don't want people to touch it, be there to take it out. I'm not hunting you down or waiting while you finish your drink or whatever. Then again, laundry exasperates me so much, I drop mine off now. That's right, old Hispanic ladies sort through my dirty unmentionables, move the wet ones, and fold the clean ones. AND I LOVE IT.
posted by dame 11 November | 12:20
goardog:
2. People who whistle at cabs (the drivers can't hear you).

Not true. It's worked for me way too many times over the years.

jonmc:
iceberg lettuce

I agree with you most of the time, but iceburg lettuce is the only lettuce for a sandwich with meat on a condiment on white bread. Other than that, get rid of it.

iconomy:
I also hate Rush.

For years Rush was my hated band until it finally dawned on me that I can laugh at Rush, which mens that I can occassionally find joy in hearing their music. That's why Journey moved up to the #1 spot. Sorry jonmc, there is no good to be found in Journey (closest to tolerable is "Anyway You Want It" and only in my weakest moments).
posted by Slack-a-gogo 11 November | 12:30
"I'd hit it" yep. yep. Also "Git 'er done". [rolling eyes]
posted by chewatadistance 11 November | 12:31
1. Self righteousness, over blown senses of entitlement, caustic behavior, whininess, non-existent senses of humor
2. Losing things
3. Running for and missing the MUNI
4. The gratuitous use of car horns
5. Bad manners

(heatherann, your #1 cracked me up. Can I add that the same people usually yell at the phone they're using? Overheard: "Damn, girl, you be talking so loud, you don't even need no cell phone.")
posted by Frisbee Girl 11 November | 12:34
And though I don't hate it, the phrase 'tap that shit' immediately reduces the IQ level in a four block area.
posted by Frisbee Girl 11 November | 12:35
I've never seen cab whistling work, but perhaps it has worked for you. Still, I hate it when people whistle at cabs. The outstretched hand waving is quite enough. I especially hate the hotel employees whose job it is to get cabs, who blast on those shrill little whistles when there are already dozens of cabs lined up. It's unnecessary noise pollution.

5. Unnecessary noise pollution.
posted by goatdog 11 November | 12:38
I can laugh at Rush, which mens that I can occassionally find joy in hearing their music.

Neil Peart is an incredible drummer. People as surprising as the guys in Fishbone have copped to being admirers.
posted by jonmc 11 November | 12:40
4. The Pacific Northwest and San Francisco. (I really consider the latter the southernmost outpost of the former.)
posted by dame 11 November | 12:47
5. The whole McSweenys cabal and their aesthetic vision.
posted by dame 11 November | 12:51
1. People who say "bro".
2. Tailgaters. I really really really hate them.
3. Bus buddies. You know, those people who are chatty and love a captive audience.
4. Having someone read over my shoulder. Gah!
5. People who crowd the table when I'm shooting pool.
6. Velveeta "cheese".

I could go on all day.

I'm with jon and Fishbone on Rush.
posted by Specklet 11 November | 12:54
1. People who say "bro".
3. Bus buddies. You know, those people who are chatty and love a captive audience.
6. Velveeta "cheese".

*looks around nervously*
posted by jonmc 11 November | 13:00
1. New Yorkers who think the world revolves around them.

2. The wait before an uphill battle.

3. Whiney passive-agressive victim-speak nosepickers.

4. Non-smoking bars.

5. The French.

6. Californians who don't stay there.

7. Gun-toters who make a point of letting you know they are packing.

8. LaRouchies, Moonies, Wise Users, white supremacists, christofascists, etc. ad nauseum.

9. College students.

10. Children (see #9 above.)

11. Non-smokers who make an issue out it. (See #'s 3 & 4 above.)

12. Car owners with fake "I'm a patriot and you're not" displays of any kind.

13. Hummers (where's my RPG.)

14. Bureaucrats, politicians, most cops, clerks, faculty, lawyers, doctors, priests; basically anybody who draws power from an institution that they are neither responsible for or to.

15. Being forced to go pro se on a public rights issue while the liberals whine and stab me in the back.

16. The self-important nosepickers who show up to claim credit after all the fighting is over. (See #3 above.)

17. People who tell me "you can't do that" after I've already done it. (See #3 above.)

18. Most of the white race.
posted by warbaby 11 November | 13:10
19. Television and anybody has anything to say about it other than "Television makes you stupid. Ask any stupid person if they watch TV. They all do. Q.E.D. Mofo."

20. Stupid people.

21. Most people.

22. Earthlings.
posted by warbaby 11 November | 13:13
*wipes froth off mouth*
posted by warbaby 11 November | 13:17
23. The rich. Eat the rich.

*fumes*
posted by warbaby 11 November | 13:18
The art school/woe is me stylings of the Cure & Smiths are the antithesis of that stuff, so it shouldn't surprise you that I loathe 'em.


I think I just disagree with you on the thought that they are the antithesis of that stuff. I like most of the stuff you mentioned, plus The Cure and The Smiths, plus a whole lot of other stuff. That's all. :)
posted by YouCanCallMeAl 11 November | 13:20
24. People who give you unwanted advice (usually half-witted advice) when you aren't feeling well.

25. Any commercial music. People think it's art. It's not. It's commerce.

26. Lists with blank lines between the items.
posted by warbaby 11 November | 13:26
1. New Yorkers who think the world revolves around them.

6. Californians who don't stay there.


Sweet, I hit the geographic double. But I still love you, warbaby.
posted by dame 11 November | 13:32
*looks around nervously*

Oh jon, you know you don't have anything to worry about. I adore you.
posted by Specklet 11 November | 13:42
Any commercial music. People think it's art. It's not. It's commerce.

Like the Beatles, the Stones, Motown, Led Zeppelin, ....ad infinitum. All very commercially appealing acts who were very succesful. That's tired posturing, warbaby. Your smarter than that.

I like most of the stuff you mentioned, plus The Cure and The Smiths, plus a whole lot of other stuff. That's all.

I'm not saying one cant like both, but it's hard not to argue the Smiths and the Cure are the polar opposite of the Dictators & the Ramones, both sonically and philosophically.
posted by jonmc 11 November | 13:44
Oh I don't know about that. I love the Ramones and the Smiths (the Cure I don't care for, and I don't know enough Dictators to make an informed decision) and I don't find them worlds apart. They're coming from a kind of similar background (worldwide economic depression in the late 70s/early 80s, no jobs, the world feeling like it was ending, I remember it, it's my high school years) you know, and they were just expressing anger and frustration in two different ways. The Ramones got purely, let us say Americanly mad and the Smiths got kind of ironically, Britishly mad. The Ramones are more universal; the Smiths are more personal. The Ramones are more extroverted, the Smiths are more introverted. But it's really the same subject, just two different takes on it.
posted by mygothlaundry 11 November | 13:55
Wel, the Ramones and Dics were very populist and very pro-pop culture in their celebrations of White Castle, TV, and covers of old garage rock and surf music. And they're songs were much more tuneful and hummable and the vocals were much more traditionally masculine. Plus they had almost no interest in politics. Also, the Ramones and Dics weren't so much mad as nihilistic and willing to deal with the maelstrom of late 20th century life by diving right into the din* the Smiths and Cure seemed to want to remove themselves from it.

Try as I might I can't imagine Robert Smith or Morrissey singing something like "Rockaway Beach," or "Pussy & Money."

*The essay on Legs MecNeil in this book expresses what I'm getting at at legnth. One thing I do believe that all four bands had in common is that they did reject Norman Mailer's "White Negro," theory of cool, which by the late seventies had been played out.
posted by jonmc 11 November | 14:06
or an even better example: can you imagine Morissey singing this? It's a complete celebration of prosaic American culture in all it's cheesebal glory. And Handsome Dick beats Morrissey and Smith at their own game with this masterpiece of self-pity.

Plus there's all those Ramones songs like "Blitzkreig Bop," and "Cretin Hop," which show that the NY Punk bands remembered that rock and roll (at least some of the time) is supposed to be fun, something the mope brigade never seemed to understand.

And songs like "Who Will Save Rock And Roll," and "Do You remember Rock and Roll Radio?" (lyrics to both on my user page)The Smiths and The Cure would never even think of those sentiments.
posted by jonmc 11 November | 14:19
Yeah, but I can imagine Morrissey singing I Want To Be Sedated and I can imagine Joey Ramone singing Girlfriend in a Coma. Actually, those would both be awesome! Heh. In rock n' roll heaven, maybe.

To look at it another way, you could think of the Clash as the natural synthesis or meeting point between the Smithian and Ramonesian worldviews.
posted by mygothlaundry 11 November | 14:21
1. People for whom hating things is a way of life and is something they constantly express to anyone who will listen.

2. Racists, sexists, and homophobes.

3. Creationists.

4. People who believe in astrology, the paranormal, UFOs, and baroque conspiracy theories.

5. Most vegetables.

6. G. W. Bush and conservative Republicans, particularly DeLay and Cheney and some others.

7. Drivers who merge from a lane closing at the last possible moment and all similar situations.

8. Stupidity and those who constantly display it.

9. Anthropocentric people who deny animal self-awareness completey.

10. My struggling to get in and out of a car, my inability to clean the house, my inability to have sex without experiencing much pain, and many other similar things.

11. The anti-intellectualism of American culture coupled with its implicit and contradictory equation of intelligence with virtue or value. That is to say, a gifted athlete is not resented when he/she treats their gift as a matter of fact, but a gifted intellectual is.

12. Parents who implicitly believe their children to be their property and act in accordance to that belief.

13. Traditional gender roles and those who eagerly embrace them.

14. Bad television.

15. People smart enough to make complex arguments about important matters but dumb enough not to recognize that their argument is incoherent or implicitly assumes its conclusion, or both.

16. Most people's inability to see within themselves and within those they identify the capacity for evil, the moral arrogance that results, and the self-righteous depravity that is its occasional logical conclusion.

17. My Dinner with Andre.

18. Windy days.
posted by kmellis 11 November | 14:23
By which I mean, yeah, you're right, the Ramones were embracing pop culture and the Smiths were (trying to) withdraw from it (although they were pretty masterful at manipulating it too; no band who makes it that big can possibly not be) but those are both valid viewpoints. Meanwhile, the Clash were getting angry, synthesizing a lot of old pop/rock beat, and at the same time being political, being outraged and still just having a helluva lot of fun.
posted by mygothlaundry 11 November | 14:24
The Clash we can agree on as great, but I still see bands like The Smiths, The Cure and a lot of the artier post-punk acts as punk becoming what it was supposed to obliterate-pretentious art-rock.

and Joey loved stuff like the Bay City Rollers and Kiss, I think he would've passed on the Smiths. Johnny and Handsome Dick definitely would've.

Although Morrisey supposedly loves The New York Dolls and old school rockabilly. Damned if you could tell by listening to his music.

2. Racists, sexists, and homophobes.

Then you'd have to hate yourself, because there's not a human being on earth free of prejudice, myself included. Once we accept that we can maybe make some progress.

posted by jonmc 11 November | 14:27
that they did reject Norman Mailer's "White Negro," theory of cool, which by the late seventies had been played out.

I should clarify this. I don't mean to say that I reject black music (that much should be obvious from my music collection) or even white folks playing black music.

But I don't listen to Smokey Robinson or Funkadelic because I think I'm tuning in on black culture. I listen to it because I like the way it sounds and because it moves me as a human being. Too much theorizing on black music, especially theories spun by white people, centers around it containing special magical wisdom that white folks can obtain if they just listen close enough and imitate hard enough, whic is mystical BS (and inadvertantly racist, IMO). The greatest triumph of the popularity of black popular music in America is that it shows them as fully human.
posted by jonmc 11 November | 14:37
7. People who eat too loudly. *slurp*smack*slurp*slurp*
8. Tabloid newspapers. IT'S NOT NEWS!
9. Celebrity culture
10. Overpaid sports stars
11. Worthless celebirty endorsements
12. Telemarketing
13. Door-to-door salespeople
posted by flopsy 11 November | 14:40
I hate polar bears. Even the cute ones. I hate them because they want to kill me.

You bet they do, iconomy. I heard them plotting to cut your brakes at the zoo the other day.

And LeeJay, tickling feels like death to me. I hate it.

My list:
--Horribly designed tract McMansions. Especially those with the awful cyclops arch window in the front.

--Tori Amos.

--Hicks in trucks without mufflers. Also, hick parents who let their elementary school kids loose on 4-wheelers.

--The people who make the pants. The pants are not made for short curvy girls with no torso. Screw you, pants people!
posted by jrossi4r 11 November | 14:44
The Clash we can agree on as great, but I still see bands like The Smiths, The Cure and a lot of the artier post-punk acts as punk becoming what it was supposed to obliterate-pretentious art-rock.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. You don't get much more art school than The Ramones or The Sex Pistols - I mean look at that image for a start. I think punk was about going back to the heart of rock n' roll, about dropping interminable guitar solos, not having songs that come in six parts and had lyrics about hobbits. A pretty noble cause I'd say. And if you can agree with me on that and then look at the enviroment that The Smiths and The Cure appeared in then you can see they served the same function.

But you know, the fact you've grouped those two bands together speaks volumes: I think it's the voices you don't like. Also, I suspect you've not heard too much of either band. You should give them another chance.
posted by dodgygeezer 11 November | 14:47
Wrong, wrong, wrong. You don't get much more art school than The Ramones or The Sex Pistols - I mean look at that image for a start.

The Pistols were art schooly sure, but that was mainly because of McLaren. The Ramones were basically waht they pretended to be, a bunch of middle-class doofuses from Queens.

Tom Carson put it this way: "Punks in the original sense of the word, were the sort of people who were such hopeless losers that they couldn't even be convincing as outlaws; far from romanticizing that status, the Ramones glorified their own inadequacy....and yet they were genuinely sexy,too; in spite of everything they were cool."

(I think by "sexy" Carson meant "cool," not "hot.")

The Smiths in England and the Smiths in America are two differen tthings, dodgy. In America, they were mainly for artsy kids and collegiates.

But you know, the fact you've grouped those two bands together speaks volumes: I think it's the voices you don't like. Also, I suspect you've not heard too much of either band. You should give them another chance.

The vocals are what kills it for me. They're just to whiny and mopey. And I've tried numerous times. I just cant get into them.

I think punk was about going back to the heart of rock n' roll, about dropping interminable guitar solos, not having songs that come in six parts and had lyrics about hobbits.

The central irony is that I love some of that stuff, too. Led Zeppelin and Jethro Tull and Pink Floyd were punk as fuck seen in the right context, although it was important that punk came along to go back to the basics as things had gotten out of control.
posted by jonmc 11 November | 14:58
1. My hair getting all staticky and clinging to my face but not being able to push it away because I'm wearing wool mittens and it's too cold to take them off. *sobs*

2. People who chain their dogs outside.

3. Sweetness in food that God intended to be savory, i.e. sugary tomato sauce.

4. People who dismiss any display of creativity, intelligence or wit with the phrase, "They must have a lot of time on their hands."

5. The tag on the back of t-shirts.

6. Smooth Jazz.

7. Moustaches.
posted by freshwater_pr0n 11 November | 15:08
jon, I really don't like commercial music or anything broadcast (with the exception of the museum radio station KMRE-LP which only plays recordings over 50 years old and even some of that is annoying.) Frankly, you wouldn't like what's on the radio around here either. That's why I go bowling at odd hours so I don't have to listen to that noise. Nothing like an empty bowling alley with the only sound being the ball and pins. I also like abandoned industrial sites.

*realizes he should go over to the "like" thread*
posted by warbaby 11 November | 15:13
the Ramones glorified their own inadequacy....and yet they were genuinely sexy,too; in spite of everything they were cool."

(I think by "sexy" Carson meant "cool," not "hot.")

Oh no honey. He meant sexy hot and yes, the Ramones were sexy as hell.

And I agree with dodgy - it's the voices. But hey! What's wrong with six part songs about hobbits? I still listen to old Genesis, by which I mean stuff like this. Might as well be about hobbits. Or, god help me, these guys who really do write about hobbits. Don't laugh. Anyway I swear to you I had a long conversation once with Chris Robinson from the Black Crowes and he's into them too.

The thing is, none of it is exclusionary. You taught me that, Jon, that it's okay to admit to music I really like without worrying about consistency (old Genesis, Lynyrd Skynyrd, the Grass Roots) or coolness. I used to not tell anyone about my extensive Grass Roots and Incredible String Band collections, much less my fondness for Bad Company, but you know what? It's all good in it's own way. The Smiths and the Ramones can coexist and I can like them both, and recognize their greatness in different ways.

p.s. Except I hate Journey and Rush.
posted by mygothlaundry 11 November | 15:18
I have solutions to each and every one of the complaints made on this page, and I will sell them for only $50 a piece. Act now, supplies are limited!

p.s. Except for mygothlaundry, who just broke my heart by saying she hates Rush. You haven't heard anything after 1981, have you?
posted by Eideteker 11 November | 15:21
Rush exists after 1981? Okay, I admit I get a little nostalgic thrill from Rush - takes me right back to high school, where we listened to them all the time, because the guys all loved Rush (and I was listening to the Police, Dire Straits and Roxy Music, go figure) but just a few bars will clear that nostalgia thing right up.
posted by mygothlaundry 11 November | 15:24
1. Seemingly un-debuggable bugs. Although, it can be satisfying to squash one that's been driving you insane for an extended period of time. Still, if it were up to me, I'd eliminate them all with a wave of the magic bunny wand.
posted by safetyfork 11 November | 17:27
1. Parents who put their kids on leashes.
2. Parents who constantly threaten their kids and never follow up (if you don't sit still you're not getting any ice cream!), then wonder why they have little monsters.
3. People who don't get up to let the elderly/disabled sit down on public transportation.
4. People who sit right next to you in an empty restaurant.
5. Waitstaff that ask you 50 times what you want to drink.
6. Loud, obnoxious drunks.
7. Loud, obnoxious bars.
8. Popped collars. (though they mainly make me laugh)
9. People who mess with the homeless.
10. The Bush Administration.
11. Mold. (I'm allergic)
12. Salespeople that act like they're your best friend.
13. When I can't stop being negative. (i should check out the other threads)
14. Samsung, Motorola and any other company that designs their products to break in one year or less.
25. Quotation marks around words/phrases that aren't quotes.
posted by Edible Energy 11 November | 18:25
After reading this thread, I now hate everything.
posted by warbaby 11 November | 19:08
What's a popped collar?
posted by Specklet 11 November | 19:21
mygothlaundry: I think some of their best stuff was in the mid 80s; their "Hold Your Fire" album still brings tears to my eyes. I recently went to see them on their 30th anniversary tour shortly after my father died; he's the one who introduced me to them.

I've learned not to try to convert people to Rush, but usually getting someone to listen to anything recorded after Geddy toned down his voice is enough to make them go "Hmm..."
posted by Eideteker 11 November | 19:21
1. People who dislike things only because other people like them.
2. The Black Eyed Peas

posted by Quartermass 11 November | 22:17
*Seeing a magazine I subscribe to on the newstands, but not getting it for another week
*People not giving up their seats for pregnant women on public transit
*The DVD club not sending TV series in chronological order
*Peppers and mushrooms
*Trimming my dog's nails
*Guys who are all talk and no action
*Finding a new hairstylist (I've lived here two years.. don't have one).
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 11 November | 22:17
Specklet: Popped Collars

Quartermass, I can't stand the Black Eyed Peas either. the nail in the coffin was when they took "Don't phunk with my heart" and remixed it as "Don't Mess With my Heart" for radio stations that wanted it clean and dry as the pledge of allegiance.

Speaking of Black Eyed Peas, that brings me another pet peeve of mine:

Songs in which the chorus is a sample, i.e., the exact same sample each time, or even worse, the same sample several times for each chorus! (Think Moby)
posted by Edible Energy 11 November | 22:34
Green Peppers.
Is there any situation where a red pepper wouldn't work better?
posted by Lazlo Hollyfeld 11 November | 22:58
jeez, my hate list is very short :)


1. I hate being rushed.

that's about it, i think. Unless you want to see the enormous list of things i'm indifferent to.
posted by dhruva 12 November | 00:13
7. People who eat too loudly. *slurp*smack*slurp*slurp*


*applauds* Years ago at a meeting at work they gave us ice cream. This woman stood behind me and consumed her portion so disgustingly loudly (how fucking loud can eating ice cream BE???!) that I almost threw up.

Chew at a distance, people. It is the law.
posted by chewatadistance 12 November | 08:04
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